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Let’s Talk About Depression with Chris Brogan


Today, I am super-psyched to announce a very special issue of Strong Inside Out. Today, we have Chris Brogan here to discuss depression with us.

Chris is the CEO and President of Human Business Works, and he basically helps give tools to people to so that they can “work better, do the work they want, and be brave.”

I first found out about Chris when he spoke at WDS 2012. I was instantly a fan when he brought superheroes into the mix and gave us all a superhero card (best. swag. ever). He talked about being brave, but I didn’t know the extent of his bravery until I read “Every Time I Talk About Depression.”

In this post, Chris opens up about what he feels when he’s hit with depression, what he expects of others when he talks about it, and why he’s being brave because other people are still afraid.

I was lucky enough to get to sit down with Chris a couple months ago for breakfast. We talked a lot about blogging, business, random things, and my big project I had in the works. It was kind of a passing comment.

…I left our morning meal, and knew I had to share more with him. So I sent him the private preview of the video.

He wrote back within a day, saying how excited he was about the project and how he would help get the word out. I was so excited! I expected maybe a tweet… if I was lucky, two.

I am beyond grateful for the amount of support I’ve gotten from Chris: Facebook updates, numerous tweets, google + posts… Because this project is what he’s fighting for, too.

The more voices we have speaking out against the stigma, the more powerful we become; the more okay it becomes to not be okay.

Depression, or mental illness in general, is not something to be hidden away, pushed down into the deep recesses of our social facade, only to fester until it overwhelms our whole being.

Mental illness is something that needs to be faced, accepted and dealt with. If we don’t make it ok to talk about it, lives will be lost. People will reach the edge of their painful silence and jump.

We can stop this. THIS is what The 30×30 Project is about.

Without further ado, here’s the interview:

Wanna skip to a specific part? Here’s a table of contents:

00:00 Intro
01:07 When you’re depressed, should you reach out online?
02:47 Rewriting your script
03:40 What does Chris do when he feels low?
06:30 Every Time I Talk About Depression…
08:00 “The gender thing” – Dealing with “I can fix this!”
08:35 The power of intimate support: Practicing your training wheels
10:35 Being ok with not being ok
10:49 “There are just far too many depressed people still hiding”
11:32 Delving into Chris’s past: the beginning of his depression and finding help
12:44 Chris’s journey to finding help
14:39 The fear of asking for help
15:49 The turning point, the facade, and the work that made the change
18:53 Chris’s words of advice to the struggling

Links mentioned in the video:

Chris’s site

Chris’s YouTube video, Depression Is An Offline Event

Chris’s post, Every Time I Talk About Depression



30x30 Updates

Where’s the hope spreading?

  • Philanthropic rock star, Erin Giles, interviewed me on all about my story and The 30×30 Project! Erin founded End Sex Trafficking Day, so it was beyond an honor to be chosen by her to have the project featured. Check it out by clicking here.
  • The 30×30 Project was featured in IndieGoGo’s recent newsletter. View it by clicking here!
  • I made the freakin’ Epic List! What does that mean? It means that my story and the hope movement were featured as a “hero story” on this beautiful, inspirational site. Click here to get pumped up.
  • It was a pleasure to be back with Greg Berg on Radio Enso on Monday. If you missed it, don’t worry; it’s archived. Click here to listen to the interview!
  • Tomorrow is the last day to shop for jewelry and accessories on The Stella & Dot 30×30 Trunk Show! 20% of the price of your new baubles will go to The 30×30 Project. Click here to shop!

The referral contest is running until Friday!

Who wants some super-awesome shirts and a personalized video workout?

Keep referring people to the indiegogo and it could be you! Please don’t stop sharing using those buttons at the top of the indiegogo page!

Here’s a reminder of how to participate:


Go to the IndieGoGo page by clicking here.

STEP 2: 

Log in to your IndieGoGo account at the top by clicking “Log In,” or sign up for one by clicking “Sign Up” (it’s easy: just connect it to your facebook account or enter your name, email and a password)


Using the share buttons right under the video on The 30×30 Project page, share with as many people as you can via twitter, facebook or google plus.

I am only able to track referrals through these share buttons, so please be sure to use those links in particular!

Email and embed works, too! Just make sure you’re signed in and copy and paste the unique URL that you see in the address bar at the top of The 30×30 Project page (it will look something like this:

Keep it up, guys! Your shirts await you. :)

We’re in the last 3 days now. I can’t do this without your help. Please spread the hope far and wide!

In hope and strength,


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20 responses to “Let’s Talk About Depression with Chris Brogan”

  1. Taking off the mask – it’s the hardest, and best, thing a man can do. Thanks for publishing this!

  2. Janet Boyer says:

    This topic is SO important. Thank you, Amy and Chris! I checked myself into a hospital when in college (irony: one of my minors was in Psychology) for an INTENSE 30-day program for major depression. I only stayed 2 weeks, but it changed my life. While I haven’t had anymore symptoms of major depression, I had anxiety. Didn’t realize I had it all my life until a young intern diagnosed me in the ER for my 5th “fake heart attack” in a decade. ::rolls eyes:: I also had PTSD because of what I went through with my first husband (I watched him suffer for a year with leukemia and then suffocate to death).

    I was on Lexapro for Generalized Anxiety Disorder for about five years and just went off my meds about 6 months ago. No panic attacks, thank goodness, and no anxiety.

    Unfortunately, coming forward isn’t always so positive. When I disclosed my anxiety disorder on my blog about two years ago, a stalker/hater followed me around the web saying I’m “nuts” and “mental”. Thing is, she an Irish woman with a Ph.D. who teaches at a college…so her “word” had more sway than, say, an anonymous troll. So, not everyone is so supportive when we “come out”. In fact, I don’t even talk about it publicly anymore because someone may “use it against me”.

    Anyway, sorry to share so much. Didn’t plan to!

    Keep up the good work,

  3. Joel says:

    This is a great interview! Thank you Amy and Chris. I have always enjoyed listening to Chris, and even more so when he talks about his own experience with it. Thanks again!

  4. You continue to amaze and inspire me girl and I love how you tackled this topic so openly with Chris. Hats off to you both for discussing the important topics so everyone can realise they’re not alone and benefit.

    It matters x

  5. Ajax says:

    Amy, this is a great interview… thanks for digging in a bit with Chris. It was cool to see you guys handling the subject with so much bravery, care and compassion.
    One thing I’d add about the gender roles as you were discussing them: not only is it difficult for men to acknowledge their own depression, also in a couple it can sometimes feel very threatening to his female partner if she has her own issues around vulnerability. There’s a tension between wanting the man to be “emotionally accessible” vs. going too far and becoming a “weak hunter”.
    Everyone’s got issues; if one of us suffers from depression, chances are the other person suffers from something else.
    Those of us who suffer from depression also need to remember that no one’s coming to the rescue in our relationships. It’s not because the other person doesn’t love you, it’s just that that’s not their job and only you yourself have the tools and the “secret recipe” inside. Getting up and getting outside is great advice.

    • Amy says:

      You’ve got a great point there, Ajax. There’s a fine line between becoming disempowered and allowing oneself to be vulnerable. The important thing is to just do something. Share with your loved one, then take action in any form (even the smallest like getting up and stretching outside your front door). The purpose is to reconnect and to ground yourself back in reality and out of your script.

  6. Fabulous. Amen and amen and amen to all of it. Every time someone speaks out bravely and authentically about mental illness there is no question that it helps others. Thank you for this piece.

  7. Kate says:

    Thank you SO much for such a wonderful post and message. You’re right – It’s okay not to be okay sometimes. I’ll definitely be sharing with my inspirational community (blog/FB page) and I hope you don’t mind that. Please keep up the good work <3

  8. Blair says:

    Great stuff. Thanks for addressing a very important topic. I know it helped a lot people. I am curious, what video chat recording program did you use to record this?

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